Face a Raise and Face a Bet in a situation

[philip77]

Hi,

I understand that the "details" tab from PT3 doesn't exist anymore, and so I wanted to know how I can find the following information.
For example, if I put a filter of "open raise IP + Cbet Flop", how can I get (easily) the % times by Cbet get raised, or %times they fold on Flop, or % times I face a Bet on Turn?

Thanks

[philip77]

No answer on that one?

[WhiteRider]

You can't see percentage of times that your CBet is raised (that's not a stat you have any control over as it is opponent behaviour), although it could be built as a custom stat. Is this for cash or tournaments?
We do have a built-in stat for CBet Success (how often it wins immediately) to help you see whether you're picking good spots generally.

You can filter for these situations, though, using "More Filters".
For example, under Actions and Opportunities you can filter for making a cbet and facing a raise. You could calculate a percentage by looking at the number of hands this returns.

[philip77]

Thanks.
It is for cash.
I have to say that it is much simpler with PT3 and the details tab where you have complete vision of what happened on the 3 streets. Now for each situation (in this case Cbet Flop IP), I will have to run various reports (1 to see the time I get raised, I to see the time they fold, and 1 to see the time I face a Bet on Turn).....
Not too happy about that.

[kraada]

Could you explain to me a little more about exactly what you're looking at on that Details page? It's originally a holdover from PT2 and at this point we weren't aware that anybody was still using it.

[philip77]

Of course I can explain it. I didn't think I was the only one using it.
Basically the good thing I found about the Details page, was that you have a detailed view on what happened on every street.
To follow with my example, imagine you want to see what happened when you OR IP and then CBet the flop. With this page you directly see on one page and with only one query, what was happening: of course the number of hands, results, and WTSD (but you can find that information in other place, and in PT4 it's easy to have it, and with some new things ...) but the great thing about that page was that you have a look at what was your opponents reaction : how many times they raised you (on which streets..) if they will bet you on Turn or River. I use it a lot, and not only with a Cbet on Flop (which is easy to analyse with other stats), but with more complex lines (what happened if I CR OOP, call the Cbet and lead the turn,...).
It's a pity you decide not to continue with it.
Of course I will be happy to learn a new way to do it with PT4 (but for the moment, the only way I see is to run various reports to collect all that info).

I hope you understand the way I use it, and why I find it very useful.

Thanks

Regards

[kraada]

I see what you were doing now - that is the first time I've ever had somebody describe to me using that tab in that way. You can definitely create custom reports which will show you this kind of information in PT4, though we do not have the chart like format so everything will be in one row.

[philip77]

I don't need them in a row. BUt I don't want to have to run 3 or 4 reports.
For example, how could you count the % percentage of hands you faced a raise? You don't even have a filter "face a Raise", I will have to use the "opp to 3Bet + face and AI" to approximate it. But then I will need another report to calculate to face a Bet on the next street ( and again, you don't have the face a Bet, so I will have to find a good combination of Opp. or sequence to simulate that.) Not easy at all.

[WhiteRider]

To calculate the percentage of hands where you faced a raise preflop, for example, create a new stat with the expression:

( cnt_p_3bet_opp + cnt_p_3bet_def_opp + cnt_p_4bet_def_opp) / cnt_hands

All of these are built-in columns.
If you want other specific situations please give us an example and we'll show you how to build it.

[philip77]

Thanks