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HUD AF showing 0 where it should be infinite?

PostPosted: Thu Dec 22, 2011 9:44 am
by Erlebnis
Sorry for bothering you guys; I might be wrong on this one but I've been seeing a lot of zeros on my AF huds and I'm finding it a bit odd.

Now, if you combine AF and AFq there I think you should have some infinites and not zeros (same for tooltip).

Again, I might be wrong but just checking (HUD was used on the replayer and not on an actual session).

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If AF = b+r/c, then if she ever bet or raise can AF be zero? Example is river MP there. Same for river BTN where AFq is actually 100%. For AF to be 0, isn't it the case that she always called (when did not fold ofc) but have never bet or raised?

In that MP river example: if she bet 1/2 (50%) and folded 1/2, her AFq is 50% and AF=inf.; if she bet 1/2 and called the other 1/2, AF=1. How can AF be 0?

Re: HUD AF showing 0 where it should be infinite?

PostPosted: Thu Dec 22, 2011 2:21 pm
by kraada
AF is 0 if and only if a player never bets or raises but has called.

Then Bets + Raises = 0, calls is some number and 0 / x = 0 for all x.

AF is infinite if a player has bet or raised but never called as x / 0 is undefined for all x.

AF is n/a if the player has not bet or raised or called at any point yet.

Re: HUD AF showing 0 where it should be infinite?

PostPosted: Thu Dec 22, 2011 6:35 pm
by Erlebnis
kraada wrote:AF is 0 if and only if a player never bets or raises but has called.
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Ok, so I got than one right.

Thus how can that player's AF be 0 and AFq bet 50 (for example, MP river)?

There are many other spots, check the EP flop AF/AFq.

If she never bet, AFq would be 0. Since her AFq > 0, she has bet or raised. If she has bet or raised, her AF can't be 0.... right?

Re: HUD AF showing 0 where it should be infinite?

PostPosted: Fri Dec 23, 2011 6:54 am
by WhiteRider
Your logic sounds good - I agree that AF should never be zero when AFq is non-zero. I can't find any examples of that in my DB from a quick search, but it may be that it's related to positional stats.
If you could export the hands for a player where you see this and attach them to a Support Ticket (post the ticket number here) we'll look into it. Be sure to tell us which player you're looking at, and which stat value looks wrong.
Thanks.