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fixed limit call flop raise turn stat

PostPosted: Tue Apr 28, 2009 3:52 am
by js2002
Hi,

is there sth like this stat? ---> call flop raise turn
call Bet flop raise turn is better or ?!

Does someone have it?
Why isnt it PT3 standard? Ist such a regular FL move.

Re: fixed limit call flop raise turn stat

PostPosted: Tue Apr 28, 2009 9:06 am
by kraada
It would be easy to count up how often someone calls the flop and raises the turn:

cnt_f_call_t_raise:
sum(if[holdem_hand_player_statistics.cnt_f_call > 0 and holdem_hand_player_statistics.cnt_t_raise > 0, 1, 0])

That will be equal to the number of times you both called the flop and raised the turn.

I'd be happy to show you how to make a percentage stat out of it, but I'm not sure what I'd use as the denominator though. I don't play fixed limit, what do you think would be most useful?

Re: fixed limit call flop raise turn stat

PostPosted: Tue Apr 28, 2009 9:26 am
by js2002
No time 4 this, ask the PT3 lead. they should know that.

Re: fixed limit call flop raise turn stat

PostPosted: Tue Apr 28, 2009 12:20 pm
by js2002
It should be more special like call Cbet Flop and Raise Cbet turn

Re: fixed limit call flop raise turn stat

PostPosted: Tue Apr 28, 2009 1:16 pm
by kraada
In that case:

cnt_call_f_cbet_raise_t_cbet:

sum(if[holdem_hand_player_statistics.enum_f_cbet_action = 'C' and holdem_hand_player_statistics.enum_t_cbet_action = 'R', 1, 0])

Will count how often you call a flop cbet and raise a turn cbet.

cnt_call_f_cbet_face_t_cbet:

sum(if[holdem_hand_player_statistics.enum_f_cbet_action = 'C' and holdem_hand_player_statistics.flg_t_cbet_def_opp, 1, 0])

Put the former over the latter (the latter is how often you call a flop cbet and raise a turn cbet) and multiply by 100 to get a percentage.

Re: fixed limit call flop raise turn stat

PostPosted: Tue Apr 28, 2009 1:39 pm
by js2002
kraada wrote:In that case:

cnt_call_f_cbet_raise_t_cbet:

sum(if[holdem_hand_player_statistics.enum_f_cbet_action = 'C' and holdem_hand_player_statistics.enum_t_cbet_action = 'R', 1, 0])

Will count how often you call a flop cbet and raise a turn cbet.

cnt_call_f_cbet_face_t_cbet:

sum(if[holdem_hand_player_statistics.enum_f_cbet_action = 'C' and holdem_hand_player_statistics.flg_f_cbet_def_opp, 1, 0])
Dont u mean the TURN def opp?



Put the former over the latter (the latter is how often you call a flop cbet and raise a turn cbet) and multiply by 100 to get a percentage.


Numinator:
sum(if[holdem_hand_player_statistics.enum_f_cbet_action = 'C' and holdem_hand_player_statistics.enum_t_cbet_action = 'R', 1, 0])
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Denominator:
sum(if[holdem_hand_player_statistics.enum_f_cbet_action = 'C' and holdem_hand_player_statistics.flg_f_cbet_def_opp, 1, 0])

correct? little confused now because "the latter is how often you call a flop cbet and raise a turn cbet" the "former" is that!

Re: fixed limit call flop raise turn stat

PostPosted: Tue Apr 28, 2009 1:52 pm
by kraada
Sorry, that should have read "the latter is how often you call a flop cbet and face a turn cbet. I also edited my typo (you are correct that should've been for the turn, not for the flop; you can see that my column has been edited now :)

I figured this stat makes the most sense as a percentage of the time that they raise a turn cbet given that they call a flop cbet and face a turn cbet.

Re: fixed limit call flop raise turn stat

PostPosted: Wed Apr 29, 2009 4:48 am
by js2002
While showering I have the best ideas:

Couldn't we just take the 2 column of "raise turn cbet" and add sth like "AND call flop cbet"?

A definition question:
If somebody faces a turn cbet, he must have faces a flop cbet, correct? But it´s not clear how he answered the flop cbet, correct?

Re: fixed limit call flop raise turn stat

PostPosted: Wed Apr 29, 2009 4:56 am
by WhiteRider
js2002 wrote:Couldn't we just take the 2 column of "raise turn cbet" and add sth like "AND call flop cbet"?

Sounds reasonable..

A definition question:
If somebody faces a turn cbet, he must have faces a flop cbet, correct? But it´s not clear how he answered the flop cbet, correct?

Correct, correct.
You can see how they responded to the flop cbet using:
holdem_hand_player_statistics.enum_f_cbet_action
This is a single character string showing either F, C, R for fold, call, raise.